Tuesday, October 20, 2009

It's Official....

I'm being the Chen Button for Halloween. Racist or not, I've already bought half the costume. Abrahm will be Randy Dunning.

17 comments:

  1. Okay, after seeing her at the constitutional amendment forum last night I have to agree with you. She is very cool.

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  2. @Sherri. I am not sure about the meeting that you attended, but at the one that I attended, Rep. Button could hardly be understood with her speaking in hardly-recognizable broken English. She boasts that she has been in this country for 30 years, yet she speaks English as though she arrived yesterday. Immigrants with much shorter stays here speak much better English.

    Honestly, Rep. Button will never effectively serve the residents of District 112 in Austin until she can communicate better. These comments may be harsh, but they are simply the truth.

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  3. Pfft... I was there. I understood her just fine. Better than I was expecting in fact. You're exagerating and I think either you're partially deaf or you're being biased. Or maybe both.

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  4. i was there and the distraction of her poor ability in speaking was very clear. it is a rather large disability to not be able to speak clearly and effectively.

    somwhat half-deaf, but not bias against her

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  5. Oh come on. Comments about broken English are ridiculous. I've spoken with her a number of times and have absolutely no problem understanding her speech or the ideas she communicates. What is the real issue? She is very conservative - just less so than Dunning. I recall that Mr Morgan has made some very bigoted comments about her in the past and stated supposed facts that had no basis in reality.

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  6. Who cares if she is conservative or liberal - this has to do with her ability to communicate - which she does poorly. I love it when those who can't accept the fact that Ms. Button can barely speak English play the "bigot". C'mon, call it what you like - it is simply fact.

    Anyone who has every talked to Ms. Button has trouble understanding her. It is ridiculous that someone who has been in this country as long as she has speaks English with such poor proficiency. Folks who have been here a fraction of the time she has been here speak better English.

    Sadly, the voters in Distict 112 - with the help of the nearly $1 million that Ms. Button spent on her race from her own pocketbook - were duped by slick ads, etc. I gaurantee you that if the majority of folks who voted for her actually HEARD her speak, Ms. Button would NEVER have been elected.

    What I have heard is that Ms. Button is a joke in Austin. She is just a puppet for a lot of different groups. Until she can communicate properly and effectively, she will never be more than a junior state representative in Austin.

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  7. As I wrote, I have no problem understanding or communicating with Ms Button and I have spoken with her a number of times. Conservative or liberal? It's relevant because an atmosphere has developed in local political discourse where someone with different views is personally trashed rather than debated honestly. The most conservative seem to be the most outspoken and the most strident in their criticcism. Exhibit A would be the bigoted comments made by Mr Nathan Morgan about Ms Button during the election.

    HW

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  8. Is there an exhibit B, C, and so on? Or is it because Nathan said something, everyone else thinks it also? If so, then Nathan is really powerful. Is that what you are saying anon @ 4:35 am?

    Cite some more examples to back up your claim that conservatives have cornered the market on "The most conservative seem to be the most outspoken and the most strident in their criticcism." so we know you are not making generalizations and not making personal attack on "consevatives".

    Pot Calling the kettle black!

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  9. You want examples? How about Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage? I mean come on... Michael Savage is so bad they won't let him in Great Britain because they believe he intentionally incites racism and hatred. What about Republicans in Congress calling the health care bill Waterloo and refusing to even negotiate because they don't like having a democrat as president. Or Joe Wilson who obviously has no concept of what the word respect means? With role models like these is it any wonder people like Nathan spit out bile and hatred?

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  10. @Anonymous at 4:35 a.m. and again at 8:53 p.m. (HW). You just don't seem get it. I'm not allied with Dunning, Button, Republican, or Democrat. You are trying to make this discussion in to a political one; it isn't. I (and others) are simply saying that she CAN'T speak good English. Perhaps, your being biased TOWARDS Ms. Button prevents you from seeing this (which is fine), but I can gaurantee you EVERYONE else sees it who listens to this woman talk. I have had discussions with her, always leaving not quite sure what she meant or said. If you are looking for exhibit A, just call her and listen to her voice mail message.

    Honestly, HW, you take the approach like the handful of elderly Richardson Coalition-ites who, when you disagree, they play the "bigot card" or the "Nathan Morgan card". I don't even know - or care - who this guy is.

    If you want discussion, then let's have it without pulling out silly and unsupported examples.

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  11. Well it's this blog where bigoted remarks about Ms Button are appearing. Or maybe the issue is that you can't comprehend English well enough?

    "I can gaurantee [spelling - evidence of English problem?] you EVERYONE else sees it who listens to this woman talk."
    There has been another person here who has said there is no problem understanding Ms Button.

    HW

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  12. @HW - Your comments are laughable at best. Honestly, it isn't just this blog. A number of places have noted Ms. Button's limited English proficiency. Just as you have done, one might have to ask about your OWN ability to understand English - ha.

    Your anger is very apparent here by your words which makes you probably either a personal friend or supporter of Ms. Button's. That's fine - but in the interest of fairness - you should probably disclose that.

    And, frankly, your flippant comments sound very much like an elderly Richardson Coalition member, as their comments usually are attacking, irrelevant, and are supported by little to no fact. Go back and read your own comments!

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  13. I don't count Ms Button as a friend. I did not support Ms Button in her election. However I support her now as an elected official and I'll support her until I see who she draws as an opponent in the next election. I'm not elderly. I'm not affiliated with the Richardson Coalition. My anger is directed at bigoted and hateful attitudes. Just because there are other blogs expressing the same ignorance doesn't excuse it here. Thankfully it's far from the prevailing attitude in Richardson.

    HW

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  14. Interesting, what is going on here! Destiny throwing PC to the wind to dress up as Chen Button, not that I think there is any racial or racist component to it to her decision. Seems to start out rather bland compared to where it ending up, thanks to HW commentary and excitability. Gotta love it!

    You like? 8)

    By HW – “The most conservative seem to be the most outspoken and the most strident in their criticcism. Exhibit A would be the bigoted comments made by Mr Nathan Morgan about Ms Button during the election.” Followed up by these comments – “You want examples? How about Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage?”

    Here is a two for one
    1) As long as you are going to get on people for their spelling, let me be of assistance! “Criticcism” is actually spelled like so, “criticism” (retaliatory comment provided due to this comment by HW- “"I can gaurantee [spelling - evidence of English problem?] you EVERYONE else sees it who listens to this woman talk.")

    2) And Glen beck is the coolest thing since sliced bread! But him being a racists? What drugs are you on? I am sure Nathan Morgan will love you putting him in the same class as Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage (who ever he is). What a compliment!!

    The conservatives don’t have a corner on the market when it comes to trashing people – HW said: “It's relevant because an atmosphere has developed in local political discourse where someone with different views is personally trashed rather than debated honestly.”

    And you are not, hmmm, trashing other people here? Or do they deserve your trashing because “they don’t agree with you”??? Are you one of those elitist and intellectualized liberal who know better???

    Sorry, but couldn't resist the kettle (HW) calling the pot black.

    8)

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  15. If someone expresses bigoted remarks I wouldn't label it trashing them. I'd label it "calling them out." Everyone should do it until it ends and nobody should tolerate even a hint of it. Get used to accents and learn to listen through them because there is a tidal wave of ethnic change rolling over Texas.

    I don't really care about spelling (or typos)because they are usually unimportant. I saw a little humor in someone fussing about language skills and misspelling in the process. Sorry you missed the humor.

    Comments about Glen Beck are not mine. You're confusing the anomie.

    HW

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  16. HW's comments are inconsistent. If I was making comments about someone's skin color or physical disability, then HW would have a valid argument, but that is not the case here. My comments are simply an observation about a SKILL that Ms. Button lacks - the ability to effectively communicate in English. How is that bigoted?

    It is fact that many immigrants who have been in this country a fraction of the time have a 100% greater English speaking proficiency. Ms. Button's inability to speak good English - and, presumably, her decision to not seek out any help in improving - is her choice. Why should this not be noted or "called out"?

    The issue here is that we simply disagree. Sadly, some folks like HW quickly evolve in to name calling and playing the "bigot" card when this occurs because they know no other way to discuss.

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  17. When you lack the facts to argue, what else is there to do but resort to name calling. Only "Conservatives" act badly? Right!

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